The Tom Joyner Morning Show crew talks exclusively with author Sabrina Lamb, one of the main players behind the cancellation of Oxygen’s “All My Babies’ Mamas.”
Lamb created a petition on Change.org with hopes of the show being pulled before it officially aired. 37,000 signatures later and tons of pressure from non-profits and civil rights organizations the show was cancelled.
Read the transcript of the interview below:
TOM JOYNER: Good morning, Sabrina Lamb.
SABRINA LAMB : Good morning, how are you?
TOM JOYNER: Alright.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Yes.
TOM JOYNER: Alright, you did it.
SABRINA LAMB : We did it. It’s a we thing. It’s a coalition of the Parent Television Council for Porter and Rap Rehab and Industry Ears, Mo Kelly out of Los Angeles, and Butch Slaughter out of Philadelphia, and the support of your listeners and over 37,000 families stood up and said; look, you can, as an adult, act the fool on international television all you want, but you cannot exploit our children. Enough is enough.
SYBIL WILKES: And so that was the crux of your protest against the show is the fact that children were being shown on the program and you did not want that part of it.
SABRINA LAMB : We demanded that that did not occur, correct. But also we’re concerned about how these children would’ve been embarrassed and had to witness adult dysfunction. Being told that it was glorified to have, you know, unprotected sex. They have, you know, all these children all over the place while their parents fight each other for sexual rewards, for financial reward. And while their mothers, their mothers accept these juvenile nicknames, that was not okay. Again, and people would say; well, what if they …
J. ANTHONY BROWN: If they had changed the show would you have kept it on? If they changed it to your specifications, is there no way the show could’ve gone on? Or just off all together?
SABRINA LAMB : The only – first of all, I’m not so craving in people in images that look like me. I’m concerned that we continue not to have equity in terms of, you know, the green light’s hour/
J. ANTHONY BROWN: What way would you want the show on?
SABRINA LAMB : I would not want that show on.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Because when you take a show off like that, but when you take a show off like that, a lot of people who are set to work on that show, they lose their jobs. They don’t have jobs, they …
SABRINA LAMB : Yeah, but none …
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Let me finish. I let you talk.
SABRINA LAMB : I’m very sorry, go ahead. Go ahead.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: They lose their jobs. So is there no way to keep the show on? Maybe you don’t show the kids, you just show the moms, and show them in a different light. Did you offer the producer of the show that?
SABRINA LAMB : No.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: So that you could keep the show on?
SABRINA LAMB : No, because first of all the term, ‘baby’s mamma’ is a slur.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Okay, we change the name.
SABRINA LAMB : They’re not gonna change the name, because we’ve had conversations, you know, high level conversations with the executives at Oxygen Media. They were determined to use that slur. It’s a slander against mothers, against fathers, and they wanted their children to sit there and witness that. It’s not, it wasn’t funny to us.
TOM JOYNER: So Sabrina Lamb, you have, congratulations, you did it, you got the show off the air before it even went on. Now, what’s the next show you’re going to go after?
SABRINA LAMB : Well, the next show, the next thing that we do we don’t reveal in public before we do it. It’s almost like hours before we do it. So we’re …
J. ANTHONY BROWN: So why don’t you all use …
SYBIL WILKES: Wait, wait, wait, let her, let her …
TOM JOYNER: Hold, hold it playa, let her talk.
SABRINA LAMB : But what we’re interested in is African Americans having the power to green light positive images of us. And we don’t. We still don’t in the year 2013. And I think that we should have that.
SYBIL WILKES: Were there any African Americans associated in the production of this show?
SABRINA LAMB : Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And I think that that is what we should be concerned about. And as Jay Anthony Brown says, you know, a lot of people are going to lose their jobs. Well, yeah. They would. But do our children have to be exploited and embarrassed and humiliated as the Senior VP at Oxygen was planning for them to experience?
TOM JOYNER: Okay, stay tuned.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Alright.
SYBIL WILKES: And so when we will know about your next petition effort?
SABRINA LAMB : Well, all of us work in nonprofits. We work with children. We will make the announcement hours before it happens.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: You’re not messing with Honey Boo Boo, right? You okay with that, right? You gonna leave that alone, right?
SABRINA LAMB : I’ve never seen Honey Boo Boo.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Good. Good.
SABRINA LAMB : I suggest you all go after Honey Boo Boo. We can’t …
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
TOM JOYNER: Alright, Sabrina Lamb.
SYBIL WILKES: Congratulations.
TOM JOYNER: Congratulations on your victory.