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Here’s a thought. Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith have been married for 18 years, with little drama surfacing, no social media fights, no drama with boxers and with only working together once. OK, there was that time they were supposedly getting divorced and almost broke the Internet, and the persistent gay/swinging rumors. But for 18 years together in Hollywood, that’s practically normal.

Maybe they have some good advice for some of the other celebrity couples splitting, soon to be divorcing or rumored to be divorcing. Yes, we’re talking to you, Keyshia Cole and Daniel “Boobie”Gibson, Tiny and T.I. and Jay-Z and Beyonce. In a new interview with net-a-porter’s magazine The Edit, Pinkett drops some gems on why her marriage has lasted, why raising her kids the way she does is fine and what she and Will think about all the rumors.

Here are some highlights:

On Marriage: 

We used to have all these rules, [but] as you go on in your relationship, you just get into a flow,” she says. “The thing I love is being in a place where it’s just like, Will, to me, encompasses everything. It’s almost as if calling him ‘my husband’ is too small of a word for what he means in my life — and especially how I feel we, as women, identify the idea of a husband. I really had to mature and expand that. I think I had a very stuck idea of what a husband looks like, what a wife should be. Once I broke all of that, a whole new world opened for me and man, oh, man, I got to see him in all his glory. And so that’s what it’s evolved into. And I’m just ecstatic about it.”

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