Expert: No Martin DNA on Gun Grip

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  • SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — Trayvon Martin‘s DNA was not found on the grip of George Zimmerman‘s gun, and Zimmerman’s DNA was not found under the unarmed teen’s fingernails, a law enforcement expert said Wednesday in testimony that prosecutors hope will refute the neighborhood watch volunteer’s self-defense claim.

    Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder and says he shot the 17-year-old in the chest to protect himself as Martin reached for his firearm during a fight.

    Judge Debra Nelson dismissed jurors without the prosecution having rested its case as it had hoped to do by day’s end. Nelson won’t resume testimony until Friday morning, giving jurors the Fourth of July off. They will remain sequestered during the holiday break.

    Florida Department of Law Enforcement DNA expert Anthony Gorgone also testified that Zimmerman’s DNA was found among blood on a shirt Martin was wearing under his hooded sweatshirt.

    While cross-examining Gorgone, defense attorney Don West focused on the packaging of the DNA samples, suggesting it could have led to the samples being degraded. Gorgone told him that Martin’s two sweatshirts had been packaged in plastic while wet, instead of a paper bag where they can dry out, and when he opened the samples they smelled of ammonia and mold.

    Florida Department of Law Enforcement analyst Amy Siewert also testified that tearing and residue on Martin’s clothing showed the gun was directly against him when it fired.

    Prosecutors have sought to portray Zimmerman as a vigilante who profiled Martin as the teen walked home on a rainy night.

    They called Gorgone on the same day they presented evidence that they say shows Zimmerman had aspirations of becoming a police officer and knew about Florida’s “stand-your-ground” law. The law says a person has no duty to retreat and can invoke self-defense in killing someone if it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.

    Zimmerman had maintained in an interview with Fox News last year that he did not know about the law.

    Prosecutors say he did have knowledge of it, however, because the subject was covered in a college class on criminal justice Zimmerman attended.

    They called as a witness Alexis Francisco Carter, the military attorney who taught the class. Carter described Zimmerman as one of his better students and said the neighborhood watch volunteer got an “A” in his class.

    Under cross-examination, Carter gave two definitions of legal concepts that seemed to bolster the defense’s case. He explained that a person can make a self-defense argument if the person has a “reasonable apprehension” of death or great bodily harm.

    “It’s imminent fear. The fact alone that there isn’t an injury doesn’t necessarily mean that the person didn’t have a reasonable apprehension or fear,” Carter said. “The fact that there are injuries might support there was reasonable apprehension and fear.”

    Carter also explained the concept of “imperfect self-defense,” when a person is being threatened but then counters with a force disproportionately greater than the force used against them.

    “They would have the right to defend themselves?” said defense attorney Don West.

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    31 thoughts on “Expert: No Martin DNA on Gun Grip

    1. Joey,
      What do you mean by us being an enriched people.If we are so enriched,why are your so called sisters all over this country walking around in the summertime suffering under all those ugly and disgusting looking wigs?

      • Like I said I’m not changing anything it is how you Imagine him/or her, because GOd can change himself or herself into what-ever you need, you seem to have something against black people..

        I’m not trying to change anything please I would like you to pick up the book By PETER HOLMES
        called the WHIte Beast” and read it,,

        Please this will be the last time I speak on this,, and you can Rant and Rave all you want,,
        but I will not be answering you again,, time is short and you are wasting mine.

        I will not argue with you and debate but I know who I belong to I have an Identity I know where I came from. and I have not jumped on anybodies band-wagon,, so GOD bless and pick up that book.

        • Did you just say that you can turn god into whatever you want?So,if you decide to turn him into the man who is duking you up the booty hole,you can do so also/ This god must be a real joke….

      • @christianslayer your right,, But women been wearing wigs since the beginning of time,, since As I can remember My aunts wore wigs, because of thinning hair,,

        SO what! what do you have against women who wear wigs,, don’t you have a mother or aunt.
        weaves came from europe. yes I will SAY IT AGAIN GET YOUR BOOK OUT!! AND WHAT DO HAVE AGAINST WOMEN WHO WEAR WIGS, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM,, SOME WOMAN MUST HAVE MESSED YOU UP… Please don’t use a whole race of people to spread your anxiety upon us seems like you letting your anxiety take over. just know I will not speak on this subject again,
        so you can rant and rave and have a HISSY FIT,, I WILL NOT DEBATE WITH YOU,,

        I DO NOT HAVE TIME BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME WITH YOU,
        SO PICK UP THAT BOOK CALLED THE “white beast By Peter Holmes

        God bless and have a great day!!!

        • Not intending to be part of the current conflict, but wigs (under the definition) have only been around for a number of decades, not since mankind was first formed, at least according to the facts.

        • When you have a real ugly fat dark skinned black woman who would be more presentable had she kept her real hair,alking around with a blonde wig down to her waist,that is disgusting.Liar,I am not talking about old ladies.I am talking from young girls as young as 15 to old hags in their 80′s.If you do not see anything wrong with you wearing a wig to make yourself look like the beasts you want me to read about,there is no help left for you.By the way,I am more worried about the Black beasts who look like you than I am about the White ones

    2. @Christianslayer There are other christians out here who are somewhat like yourself, in the bible it says can you Imagine Christians killing other Christians,,, and here we are today,,

      Killing each other spirit . But I have never called myself a christian A Christian wouldn’t even give you A ride to the Church or Share there LAST SPOON FULL OF Collard Greens with you,,

      BUT A STRANGER ON THE STREET will treat you better than a christian. That is the truth, WE have become IDOL WORSHIPPERS , and what I have on my bedroom wall is MY black Jesus,, I do know history so why do you think you are the only one that knows history. I have studied many Religion’s backgrounds. and I have the English Version of The GOOD news word,, so how can you say that we have no sense of Pride or History ,, YOU Do not have the 411 on HIstory or pride. WHO Died and left you in Charge…

      • No Sir,
        No one died and left me a King and I am not claiming to be one.All I am trying to say is that when you have more than 90% of Black people in this country claiming that they believe in the existence of a place being run by white people waiting for them with open arms ,you are dealing with a major problem my friend

      • Also,you changing the color of Jesus does not mean shit unless you are also ready to change god’s color……Even though I do not believe in his existence,it still would be better for Black people if they thought of their god as a god who does not look like their enemy

        • Well first of all I’m a Black woman, I’m not a sir, Well I do appreciate your opinions, but you have to realize that if you think like that and believe that way. You are cheating yourself out of a Precious Lord

          I’m not trying to change his color, I read everyday, He/or she is a person of color and everyone in that Bible is a person of color, Moses was black, Abraham was black and I Do not believe that 90% of black people think that jesus is there enemy. but what you believe is one thing, but you cannot say 90% of blacks believe what your saying…

          We are AN Enriched people. We have come from an Enriched Savior, He created us in his image
          he was a man of color. he was not white, and he didn’t have many friends but Twelve and they all turned against him so imagine how we as a people feel we have always been persecuted for the color of Our skin and so was jesus

          We are the one’s who taught The jews the language of Hebrew they came into africa and when they
          left they Know how to speak the Language of Hebrew, they learned it from Africans, so please do not spread your hate unless you know what your talking about, Do some research 90% where did you get that from.. please tell me where you get your Percentage from.

        • My Dear,
          I am in a very good mood this evening and I am not going to get into a debate with someone as lovely as you.Good night my darling and may the devil have mercy on your soul

        • Listen Christianslayer THE DEVIL DOES NOT HAVE MY SOUL… please you should not say things like that, and call me Darling, that is not Smart or very intelligent. I do not belong to Satan or any man. I do not trust man because he is very destructive. so please do not put satan in My mix here

          Because he gets NO GLORY from ME,, I do not acknowledge him, I will not even acknowledge you
          at this point because your right it is Point-less.(it is a waste of time)..Good night to you to,

      • You are a nut with a few loose screws up there where your brain is supposed to be.You are also a liar for saying that you were not trying to change jesus’s skin color.You just said that your jesus was black.The problem with religious minds is that they are so addicted to lies that they themselves do not know when they are lying

        • you are such a silly young child you need to get to the library and get you some more history lessons, and try to asks GOd to give you some knowledge,,

          LIke I said if I’m black then My LORD AND SAVIOR IS BLACK SO HE CREATED ME IN HIS OWN IMAGE SO HEY LIKE I SAID IF I’M BLACK THAT IS THE WAY I PICTURED HIM/OR HER,,

          YOUR RANTING AND RAVING OVER SOME WIGS,, ARE YOU KIDDING ME,,

          HAVE YOU EVER HAD A AUNT OF A MOTHER THAT WORE WIGS,, SO WHAT!!! your ranting about a wig or a weave ,, weave came from Europe… so what the heck are you talking about..

          Like I said I have my own Identity I do not belong to anyone,, and I do not want to jump on your band-wagon,, get yourself some more knowledge and then come back to me… and stop using us as a whole race of people blaming and pointing the finger,, because that is what children do,,

          if your not going to try to change anything stop complaining,, get your-self together and get to the library ,, GOd bless and have a great day.

      • Your brain is bouncing inside your head just like a ping ball machine.Now you are claiming that it’s possible for god to be a woman.You just want to be able to change the story whenever you see fit to do so.You are a liar now and you will die a liar….fool

    3. EVERYONE PLEASE READ!!! Everyone is so focus on where Zimmerman said the fight started at the top “T”, but I do not think it started there. DO YOU REMEMBER in Zimmerman’s reenactment Trayvon came out of nowhere and punched him in the face, which led to him falling on the ground where Trayvon got on top of him, started pounding his head to the concrete, and placed his hands on GZ nose and mouth BUT HOW? Do you remember Zimmerman had his flash light. WHERE WAS IT? ON THE GROUND? IN HIS HAND? Remember when the lead detective integrated GZ on his 911 call and kept asking him about his locations during the call, which GZ tells him he was going over to the next street to find an address and comes back to the “T”. The lead Detective then tells him he had 1 min and 40 sec unaccounted for, GZ tells the Detective he was hitting his flashlight on his hand to get it to start working again. So, the flashlight was still in his hand at the “T”. In Racheal testimony she says while Trayvon was running she lost contact with him but called him back and he answered, then she says she heard a bump hit the ear piece and also heard two voices, one was a man’s (GZ) voice and the other was Trayvon saying “What are you following me for” and then saying ” Get off, Get off”. She then heard them tussling in the grass (dog path) and then started calling Trayvon’s name and then the phone went out. But do you remember he so called best friend also mentioned GZ saying he walked down the “dog path” and that GZ did not go down the next street because there is light on that street and Zimmerman would have seen Trayvon’s shadow if he would have went that way. Also the friend said when GZ was walking back to the “dog path” to go to his car but met up with Trayvon, who tells him “You have a problem MF”. THE FRIEND’S STORY AND ZIMMERMAN’S STORY DOESN’T ADD UP (PLEASE GO BACK AND LISTEN TO HIS TESTIMONY FOR YOURSELF). All the evidence (cell phone, earpiece, bag, iced tea, skittles, and even Zimmerman’s flashlight) was found near Trayvon body on the “dog path”, nothing was found where GZ says the fight started. Zimmerman’s searched and searched for that poor child, who screamed for help, and murdered him. AFTER ALL THIS BEING SAID YOU DO THE MATH!!!

    4. As a person who has spent most of his time living in the U S standing up for Black people’s rights, I will no longer do so.Black people are still going through this shit because they truly deserve it . By continuing to worship the white man’s god and his white son jesus,they are constantly telling racist white people that they are the dumbest assholes on planet earth.Furthermore, because of their ignorance and fear of white people, they have convinced themselves and their children that anyone who speaks up against racism must be nuts because of that mulatto occupying the oral orifice.It is only when the racism hits close to home that they care and want everybody else to start caring.Last night, I found myself getting upset about this stupid trial and asked myself why…..I do not know these people and have nothing in common with them except that our skin color is the same.Furthermore,I have no idea if the shoe was on the other foot if they would care about my son getting killed by a racist Jew named Zimmerman…..Since they have so much love for this white god and they believe that everything he allows to happen on earth is for a good cause,they should accept their son’s death as god’s will and shut the f(*& up.I will no longer waste any more energy on anything that does not concern me personally……It’s just not worth it.
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      • He was justified in killing his attacker, at least according to the Law. The only need of a booking is for the parents of that thuggster who endangered the community up until Mr. Zimmerman defended his own life and neutralized the threats from that illegally-high-on-dope-criminal. Smashing a victim’s head into a cement walkway is not permissible under any circumstances imo.

    5. Maybe there was Martin’s-hair-gel or pot-residue there.and wasn’t identified by those crazy examiners that helped the defense case.

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