Why An HBCU Grad Kept His Life-Long HIV Status A Secret [INTERVIEW]

June 27th is National HIV Testing Day, but even though the Center For Disease Control estimates that African-Americans account for an estimated 44% of all new HIV infections among adults and adolescents (with Black women accounting for 29% of new infections) too many of us will file off the “know your status” PSAs as yet another health warning we’ve heard too many times before.

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Or at least that’s how I felt when I attended a safe sex seminar during my Freshman Week at Howard University; my eyes glazed over at the information I “already knew.” My roommate and I had vowed to attend every event that week no matter how “corny” it seemed, so I sat in a half-empty room filled with mostly girls and rolled my eyes when they erupted into elementary giggles as an upperclassmen instructor showed us how to put a condom on a plastic penis.  Many in the audience only seemed to be half-listening to the speech too, but there were plenty who were focused on the speaker and made a point to whisper about how cute he was.

I’m not sure how seriously any of us took the conversation, but it would hit way too close to home years later when that upperclassman speaker, William “Reds” Brawner, would announce to the media that he had been living with the HIV virus his entire life. The news shocked his family, friends, ex-girlfriends/sexual partners and strangers alike. “Reds” was a well known ladies man, and there was a panic in our community as people began to play the realest game of “6 degrees of separation,” ever: “could someone I slept with have slept with him or someone he slept with!?” The fact is, HIV was not just limited to this one instance at our school: the Center For Disease Control  estimates some 26% of all cases of HIV in the US are in youth age 13 to 26, and a staggering 60% don’t even know they’re infected. It hadn’t dawned on many of us that the virus could be in our very own backyard (I don’t recall any other person publicly disclosing that they have HIV — or any STD status — in my time at HU or since).

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Brawner’s college roommate, director Mike Brown, was equally surprised by his disclosure and would go on to explore the story from the beginning in a provocative documentary, “25 To Life.” Produced by Leah Natasha Thomas, Khaliah Neal and executive producer by Ron Simons of SimonSays Entertainment, “25 To Life” premiered June 22 at the American Black Film Festival in New York where it scooped up the Grand Jury Prize for Best Documentary.

The coming-of-age story that chronicles Brawner’s contraction of the virus and road to redemption after he announced it, left audiences just as stunned as it did our collegiate community. Why the hell would he keep this possibly lethal news a secret, all the while having sex with some women he adamantly “didn’t even remember sleeping with?” Perhaps — the film implies –  because he grew up learning how to keep his HIV status under wraps.

In the documentary we meet Will’s mother, Lisa Brawner, who recalls the day in 1981 that she got a call at work that her 18-month-year-old had been rushed to the hospital with burns so severe his clothing was welded into his skin.  A babysitter would say that Will pulled a pot of boiling water on himself, though doctors would say the evidence did not support that story. The exact details about the horrific accident are a mystery to his family even to this day, but when it was all said and done a young Will would get a blood transfusion that would introduce the HIV virus into his body.

During the early ’80s the disease was fairly new in the United States and scientist were grappling to understand just what they were dealing with, let alone how to treat it. Teen Ryan White, who had also contracted HIV from a blood transfusion, was making headlines as the poster child for the virus, in the worst way. His school expelled him, his Indiana community all but exiled him out of fear he would spread the virus to the community, and sent death threats to his home.  After seeing this public reaction play out in the news, Brawner’s mother, a young single mother in Philadelphia, quickly decided she would not subject her son to the same ostracization or stigmatization. She made the decision to only tell a select few family members and would raise her son instructing him not to tell anyone about his HIV status either.

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As time went on, Brawner says in the film, “I suppressed my HIV status so much that I minimized it and because I couldn’t express it, it was like it didn’t exist.” As he navigated through high school and then college, he suppressed the reality of his HIV status, stopped taking his medications, and turned to promiscuity and partying. “Because things were a game to me I was always looking for my next conquest. That’s how I expressed my manhood, that’s how I expressed my bravado,” Brawner said.

There are even more voices that shed light on Brawner’s shocking story in “25 To Life” that will evoke strong emotions from viewers. There’s his high school girlfriend who didn’t initially know that he was HIV positive, but continued to have unprotected sex with him even after he told her (they would later break up when he went to college, and she’d end up sending a letter to the university office of the President outing Brawner’s HIV status and accusing him of spreading the virus throughout campus). There are the college friends who speak to how a “wild” Brawner was routinely involved with different women on campus, and one friend who point-blank calls him an “attempted murderer” for his actions. The film also follows his fiance-turned-wife who knew that he had the virus when they met and decided to marry him and have a child with him anyway.

In real-time it’s been five years since the documentary wrapped. Brawner, who still speaks to youth about HIV awareness and prevention, is now 34-years-old and a walking testament that a full life is still possible with the HIV virus. He now has two children — both HIV negative — and says his whole life’s journey has brought him closer to what he thinks is his divine life purpose. One he’s convinced that this film is helping him realize.

Keep clicking to read our Q&A with William Brawner, but first watch the trailer of “25 To Life” below to get a closer look at his story. For more information about “25 To Life” visit  www.25tolifefilmsite.com.

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HELLOBEAUTIFUL: What was going through your mind as you taught your college peers about safe sex,  knowing you were putting lives at risk by sleeping around and not disclosing your HIV status to your sexual partners?  

WILLIAM BRAWNER:  That’s a great question; that’s part of a great struggle I went through my entire life.

I’ve actually been a peer educator since I was 14 and full disclosure, as you see in the documentary, I’d actually go on the radio under different names and tell a bit of my story. It was always something that I really wanted to do but really just didn’t have the courage to do. In those moments where I was doing the STD and HIV prevention education and being involved in programs and speaking to people throughout the country, I guess it was my way of being who I really wanted to be without the struggle of exposing that I have HIV.

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HB:  After news of your status hit the HU community, I always wondered if you were involved in safe sex talks on campus as a way to ease guilt or a round about attempt of protecting people from you. 

WB:  Wheew. That’s an interesting way to put it, I honestly never thought of it that way, but that would definitely make sense.

I did my best to protect other people from me. Speaking about safe sex was just, in my kind of way, somewhat of an outcry. Wanting people to be safe, wanting people to understand the difficulties of HIV and HIV prevention was there. And to be perfectly honest with you, I so wish I had the courage to come out and say ‘guess what, I’m HIV positive’ like I do when I’m speaking now. It’s just that being on Howard University’s campus and being in the place I was at that time on Howard’s campus, I guess I didn’t feel strong enough. I definitely don’t want people to think this is just a Howard thing, it happens all over the country  just at Howard. We’re not the ‘party school,’ we’re not ‘the AIDS school,’ we’re not the ‘STD school.’ I went to Howard, this is me and this is my story, that’s it.

[EDITOR’S NOTE: According to the Center For Disease Control’s latest stats, youth aged 13 to 24 accounted for an estimated 26% of all new HIV infections in the United States in 2010. Almost 60% of youth with HIV in the United States do not know they are infected.]

HB: What made you decide to finally disclose your HIV status in such a public way? 

WB: Well I want people to understand I came out publicly to help people regardless of what I’ve done. Now to be completely honest with you, after coming out and disclosing publicly, do I sometimes regret it when I have to hear about the sighs and cries or when I get thrown to the wolves for whatever reason — either fair or unfair? Do I sometimes wish I hadn’t disclosed? Of course I do. But it was a decision I made, it wasn’t a decision that was made for me.  I could’ve simply went along with my life and disclosed people who needed to know, ie my girlfriend, sexual partners, family and friends and kept it there. I did this publicly because I wanted to help. That’s it.

We have to keep in mind that when people are putting me under such scrutiny or anyone who’s disclosing their status under such scrutiny that just solidifies why people don’t do it.

HB: You could’ve disclosed to your girlfriends and sexual partners in private, but adamantly didn’t for years. Did you ever consider the safety of those women, especially while you were having unprotected sex? 

WB: I have engaged in unprotected sex but not often. I mean, one time is too much especially being HIV positive, but It wasn’t a common practice of mine at all. In fact, especially during my time at Howard University, there was only one time [I had unprotected sex] and that one time was actually a condom breaking. At that moment I should’ve said something without a doubt. I didn’t, but it wasn’t my intention to be going around having unprotected sex. That’s not actually what happened. Now having protected sex and not telling is not good either. I want to be very clear about that and that’s something I probably shouldn’t have done either, but it definitely wasn’t unprotected sex.

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HB: But your high school girlfriend says in the film that you two  only had protected sex once, even after she found out about your status. How do you reconcile with the fact that there very well women out there who you’ve infected? 

WB: That’s part of the guilt that I carry every day. I haven’t reconciled with it. I struggle with it. I dont’ want any body to have to go through what I’m going through. I’m not talking about the public disclosure, I’m talking about the medications and impending death. I struggle with it. It’s part of the guilt I carry with me every. Single. Day.

HB: The film does makes a point to include that no women have contacted you to say they’ve tested positive for HIV, is that still the case? 

WB: That has not changed. Primarily because I was not engaging in much unprotected sex, like I said before.

HB: In some states men have gone to jail for knowingly having sex without disclosing HIV/AIDS status. What do you say to people who consider you an ‘attempted murderer,’ like one of your own friends calls you in the film? 

WB: It hurts and that’s one of the reason’s why I held from disclosing a little longer. I don’t want people to look at it that way. The law is the law, I don’t make any excuses for what I’ve done. It just hurts that people would see me that way because in my heart that’s not who I am even if that’s what I’ve shown. I knew going into this that there would be some judgement — I just didn’t know how much. Does it make me hurt to the point I get on my knees and cry sometimes? Of course it does, but I have to keep going. I hope that once people see the film and hear from me personally, maybe they’ll get a bigger understanding. But this is not about them, it’s not even about me. This is for the people who have been infected and affected by HIV/AIDS.

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HB: What do you tell the youth that you speak to today about disclosing their status to community and sexual partners? 

WB: I still struggle with that. Every person is different, every circumstance is different and every relationship is different. I’m often asked this question and I don’t have a straight answer. The reason being is there is no cookie cutter explanation on how to disclose. There are some key factors to keep in mind though that I tell them:

One factor is you definitely want to disclose before you get into any kind of sexual relationship or engage in any sexual activities with a partner. The same way people scrutinize my life and decisions — with fairness — I allow my youth to be an example for them and say, ‘Do you want people who you’ve had sex with and not told to be scrutinizing you the way that’s happening to me right now? The best way to avoid this is to be upfront early. If you can’t be upfront early then you need to get out of the situation.

Another one of my key factors is: you can not disclose until you are comfortable with this person and comfortable with the fact that they may not accept you after you disclose.

HB: We often hear PSAs about HIV/AIDS but what do you want people to walk away from this film knowing about the virus today? 

WB: Everybody could be infected! HIV is not ‘for’ homosexual white men, it’s not ‘for’ African-American women. If you can look at yourself in the mirror, you can contract HIV. The main reason why I started disclosing is that no one expected ‘Reds,’ Will, Will Brawner to be HIV positive.  The reason this epidemic is at such a rapid rate is not because of people who do know, but because of people who don’t know. People don’t go get tested because of fear or stigma of even taking the test. That’s why this epidemic is where it’s at, especially in the African-American community. That’s why the CDC is making a push to normalize testing.

HIV is taking a back seat, when it should really be taking a front seat. It’s still silent because people aren’t talking about it enough. Hopefully this film will help.

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HB: What has changed in your life since the cameras stopped rolling on this film five years ago? 

WB: Unfortunately me and [my wife at the time of the film] are no longer an item. Marriage has its ups and down and being HIV positive definitely played a big part in the relationship. The stress that was involved in disclosing and even the public scrutiny, I don’t think outwardly that caused a decline in our marriage but in hindsight I realize we were under a lot of stress. I’m sure that all played some role but outside of that we had many other issues that played a part. We still co-parent and as it appears our son [who will be 5 on December] is not affected by any of it.

I have a one-year-old daughter now too. She’s beautiful. Me and her mother are in a wonderful relationship, we’ve been together for more than a year now and both she and my daughter are HIV negative. I definitely want more kids. You’re talking to someone who thought they’d never have children. Now I want to ‘be fruitful and multiply’ and have as many as the Lord will allow me to have.

HB: If you happen to have a child that does contract the virus, would you also keep it a family secret? 

WB: No. This is 2014. There would be no reason to do that at this point. They didn’t even have computers when we were keeping this a secret. No cellphones.  The times are different so I would handle it differently.

HB: How are you different today? 

WB: I’m a very spiritual person, I love the Lord. In the film I make a comment: I’ve seen people contract AIDS and die all in my lifetime. I’ve seen a number of people do this. You’re talking to me and I’m now 34 years old. I don’t have many medications left. Every time I pop one of these pills I think about death, but right now I feel great, I’m doing great. I’ve been HIV positive pretty much my entire life and I have the ability to give the message that I’m living; I feel like the message is succeeding.

The reason why God has given me this grace is so that I can do what I’m doing and educate people about [HIV/AIDS], especially since I wasn’t as diligent with my medication as I should’ve been through out the years. There’s no other explanation. There’s no medical reason. There’s only a spiritual reason.

I started this journey by wanting to let other people with HIV know my story and know that if I could survive and overcome certain things, so could they. As I’ve grown older and developed more with God I feel like the story’s bigger than me. I’ve been living with this for 33 years now. I feel like I’m on borrowed time, but I feel like I’m only able to do that because of what I’m doing right now to promote awareness. This is a divine purpose that’s way bigger than me.

William Brawner is the Founder & Executive Director of Haven Youth Center, Inc. and a spokesperson for  National Black HIV/AIDS Awareness Day. 

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