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Roland Martin talks to Cleo Manago of the Black Men’s Xchange about Kerry Washington‘s speech at the 2015 GLAAD awards that has garnered much criticism due to its subject of black women in the media and homphobia.

“Black men are more concerned about their manhood and black women are more concerned with being perpetually single. We’re definitely not the most homophobic though,” Manago said.

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