Paul Mooney joined the TJMS to talk about his latest show at the Addison Improv, however, after briefly poking fun at Sybil Wilkes for visiting the Mayan Ruins, Tom opened a can of worms asking the comedic legend about his opinion on the new movie “Django Unchained.”
Read Mooney’s response below.
TOM JOYNER: Hey Paul, you seen Tarantino’s movie?
PAUL MOONEY: Django?
PAUL MOONEY: I don’t have to go see that. (Laughter)
SYBIL WILKES: How did we know that?
PAUL MOONEY: I don’t want to see that mess. Have you seen it?
TOM JOYNER: No.
PAUL MOONEY: Are you going?
TOM JOYNER: Tomorrow.
PAUL MOONEY: Good luck.
SYBIL WILKES: Jay’s seen it twice.
PAUL MOONEY: You’re kidding?
TOM JOYNER: Sybil seen it three times.
PAUL MOONEY: Does the ending change? Or it’s the same ending?
TOM JOYNER: Same ending.
PAUL MOONEY: I don’t get it, I don’t, I just, I …
TOM JOYNER: They say half of the $77 million that it’s done so far came from black folks.
PAUL MOONEY: Uh-huh?
TOM JOYNER: And the other half came from some really brave white people.
PAUL MOONEY: I think they released that as a video first. I think, no, I think is, yeah, I think they released it and they brought it back, this is not the first time they’d shown this.
TOM JOYNER: What?
SYBIL WILKES: Oh, really?
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah. That’s what I, that’s the feeling I get, I think they, yeah, they do. You know, the black exploitation crap, they released it, outside of this country, you know, and all of that, and then they bring it back and then they pretend like it’s an opening.
SYBIL WILKES: Oh.
PAUL MOONEY: They bring it back, so you know, who, how do you make a movie about slavery? I don’t, I don’t get that. I don’t get it, you know?
TOM JOYNER: How do you make a movie about slavery?
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah. And then someone’s killing someone, is it about slavery? What is it about?
SYBIL WILKES: It is about a man who was freed, a black man who was enslaved …
PAUL MOONEY: Thank you …
SYBIL WILKES: … and he was freed.
PAUL MOONEY: … y’all up there talking about slavery like you don’t, look, here, how do you make a movie about slavery? We should’ve learned our lesson from “Roots.”
TOM JOYNER: So this is a parody?
PAUL MOONEY: I would think so. I haven’t seen it, but that’s what I would think. You know, I don’t, listen, first of all, people who run around telling you about your experience, you know, real white people, fake white people …you can’t tell me about my experience. You know?
SYBIL WILKES: He said real white people, and fake.
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah. Talk about, tell me about you. Tell me about your life. You understand? That’s interesting. Stop telling, if you’re not an Indian, don’t tell me about Indians. (Laughter) That’s just the way. You know? You understand?
TOM JOYNER: Yeah. Makes sense.
PAUL MOONEY: That just takes nerve.
SYBIL WILKES: Yeah.
PAUL MOONEY: That takes nerve. But I can understand it makes money, you know?
SYBIL WILKES: It’s making a lot of money.
PAUL MOONEY: Go ahead.
TOM JOYNER: You’re a person who appreciates the N word more than probably anybody, you probably made more money using the N word than anyone. And they, the controversy is that Tarantino uses the N word so much in the movie that some people are saying that he has no right to do that. Like how many times, Sybil, is it?
SYBIL WILKES: Oh, Jay said it’s over a hundred times.
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Oh, yeah. Easily.
PAUL MOONEY: Well, he has a right to use it. He has the right to use it.
SYBIL WILKES: You think so?
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He does.
SYBIL WILKES: Oh? Okay.
PAUL MOONEY: Isn’t he a Jew?
SYBIL WILKES: I don’t know what Tarantino is.
PAUL MOONEY: I would think so. I would think so. Wouldn’t you?
PAUL MOONEY: So he has the right to use it.
SYBIL WILKES: I suppose.
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah, he’s a nigger, so he can use it. (LAUGHTER) Did I say that? Oh, I’m so sorry.
SYBIL WILKES: Yeah, you did. (Laugh)
TOM JOYNER: Yeah, you did.
PAUL MOONEY: I’m so sorry. I, oh, I’m sorry, I apologize for me and Terrance. That’s so funny. Terrance, Terrance used it, and he’s brave, and he’s courageous. I use it and I’m a criminal, I’m sorry.
Isn’t it interesting? The double triple standards. Yeah? Isn’t it interesting. And I’ve been using it a lot longer than him. And I’m a lot older than him. You know. If he says it he’s courageous and a hero. If I say it I’m an enemy to the state. I should be arrested. Okay. It’s okay. But it’s interesting. I don’t, you know, I don’t, it’s alright, it’s okay, because I’m reversing it on him. I’m going to make me a movie.
SYBIL WILKES: What are you going to do?
PAUL MOONEY: I’m going to make me a movie about white folks. I’m going to tell, I’m gonna tell their story.
TOM JOYNER: If they can tell ours, you’re gonna tell theirs.
SYBIL WILKES: You can tell theirs.
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah, I’m gonna tell theirs, that’s the truth.
SYBIL WILKES: Okay.
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah.
SYBIL WILKES: So you have it all worked have you?
PAUL MOONEY: Oh, I got it all worked out, yeah.
TOM JOYNER: The movie practically writes itself?
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah! (LAUGHTER) Oh! Oh, of course.
TOM JOYNER: This is easy money?
PAUL MOONEY: Oh, yeah, yeah.
TOM JOYNER: It’s easy work?
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah, it’s going to be like, what is that nighttime soap opera? It’s going to be like that nighttime soap opera.
SYBIL WILKES: Like Dallas?
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah, like that. Oh, yeah, we’ll go on and on and on. Just, for about 400 years. Payback is great, ain’t it? What goes around comes around. I think that’s what I’ll call it.
No, just, you know, even like us discussing it, I mean, it’s like … I just think his films are interesting. They’re just, they tell on black people on what those people can get, I call those people, black people to do. But you can’t get them to do it. These same films that have been made, if you, as a director and a write tried to get some black folks, they would jump on you and beat you up, and tell you that they’re disrespecting them. You do know that.
SYBIL WILKES: Yeah?
PAUL MOONEY: Let’s pretend like we never saw those films, and you would go to a black actor and tell them this is what I want you to do. You know? And you’ll get an Academy award. You’re going get raped, you know, in all those movies, all that crap. It would never happen. It would never happen.
TOM JOYNER: What’s going to happen to you?
Paul Mooney: No, it just won’t happen.
TOM JOYNER: You’ll be raped, beaten.
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah. And then he goes and gets those black people that, you know, from those way back in the day that we’ve forgotten exist and brings them back up and have them do crazy stuff. He gets them to do anything. I think, I think he’s like Dracula, he can get them to do anything. (LAUGHTER)
SYBIL WILKES: Dracula.
PAUL MOONEY: That’s the truth.
TOM JOYNER: Thank you, Paul.
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah.
TOM JOYNER: For breaking it down like that.
PAUL MOONEY: But, look, it’s, look, we talk about it, and even us discussing it, it’s disgusting. It’s just, it’s just, no, it is, it’s too much for me. Do you know, you know what I mean? No, it is. It is. It’s just even being just, being a part of it, a silent part, or a verbal part, yeah, it’s just. Don’t you find it, don’t you find it annoying? Did you see it? Huh? You saw it? How many times?
J. ANTHONY BROWN: Six times.
PAUL MOONEY: Once?
PAUL MOONEY: Did you like it?
TOM JOYNER: Yeah, he loved it.
PAUL MOONEY: No, I’m not talking to he, I’m talking to she, did you love it? The lady with …
TOM JOYNER: Well, Paul is, while Paul is on a private conversation, let me remind the people that Paul is appearing in, at the Improv … and Paul …
PAUL MOONEY: Yeah, at the Improv. Yeah, did you say I’m having a private conversation? I’m here talking to your lady friends. How is this private? There’s one, two, three, four, five women here, and I’m in a private conversation? You Dracula. (LAUGHTER) I’m having a, you’re black Dracula. Or was it Blacula?
SYBIL WILKES: Blacula. Yeah.
PAUL MOONEY: Blacula. I love that.
TOM JOYNER: Alright, Paul.