Woman Hit By Cleveland Bus Driver Talks to TJMS

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TJ:  Alright, let’s go to our New York studios and go inside her story with Jackie Reid.  Good morning from Birmingham, Alabama, Jackie.

JR: Good morning.  I wish I was there, Tom.  Now listen, by now many of us have seen or heard of Shi’dea Lane.  She’s the 25 year old woman that was punched by an angry male bus driver.  Now that moment has become the uppercut that people cannot stop talking about and spawned a heated debate, Tom.  On one side there are those who actually think she deserved to be hit.  And then there are those who believe that a man should never hit a woman no matter what.  Tom, I’m going inside her story with Shi’dea Lane.  Good morning, Shi’dea.

SL:  Hi, how are you?

JR:  Hi.

SL:  Thank you.  Hi.

JR:  Now listen, we talked about this yesterday.  A lot of folks out there saying that you deserved to be hit.  A lot of negative things out there on the Internet said about you.  How do you respond to all of this?  How are you dealing with all that, those negative comments?

SL:  Well, actually it’s been a lot of negativity like in my life as far as what they’re saying about me right now.  And it just, it kind of breaks my heart because that’s not the type of person that I am.  And they haven’t really seen the videos before things had went on.  And I just feel like it was very hurtful and very humiliating, especially for my four year old daughter to see something like that on the TV about her mother.  So it really hurts.

SW:  What happened?

TJ:  Yeah, tell us what happened?

JR:  Yeah, what happened?

SL: Well, as soon as I got on the bus he stereotyped me and misjudged me and said, hoe, you don’t have any money.  And it was like very disrespectful.

JAY:  The bus driver said that to you?

SL:  Yes, he did.  And …

JAY:  The minute you got on the bus?

SL:  Before, well, I got, yeah, when I got on the bus I told him I had to look for my money.  And I said, just hold on a minute, I got it.  And he said, oh, ho’ you don’t got no money.  And I said, huh?  You know?

TJ:  And then what happened?

SL:  And then it just, like I told him I had some money and he was being very disrespectful and was calling me names and stereotyping me and misjudging me before he even knew I had money.  I paid him.  And he was still driving the bus at this time.  So I end up paying him, because I found the money in my pocket and I paid him.  And he was still was disrespecting me and calling me names.  

TJ:  And what were you saying back to him?

SL:  I was saying things back to him because I felt like I was supposed to stand up for myself.  I have been a victim …

TJ:  What were you saying?

SW:  Finger on the button.

SL:  I was saying …

JR:  So he called you a ho’, you called him what?  Or what did you say to him in response to all of what he was saying?

SL:  When he called me, when he called me a ho’, I said, are you talking mess?  Because I just couldn’t believe what I was hearing from a man that didn’t even have a clue who I was.  And misjudge me and I had money.  So, I …

JAY:  Were you drinking that day?

SL:  … was defending myself.  I never was drinking that day.  I was on my way to work.  I never …

JR:  Did you hit him at all?

SL:  I never hit him.

SW:  Did you spit?

SL:  I hit him after he physically attacked me.  Yes, I did.  After he physically attacked me.

JR:  After he, so you’re arguing back and forth, like it’s a situation that many people have been in where someone says something to you and you say something back.

SL:  Exactly.

SW:  Now the report says that you spit on him?  Is that true?

JR:  Okay, and then he was the first one to throw a blow, according to you.  Is that true, Shi’dea?

SL:  Yes, he was the first one to throw a blow.

JAY:  He hit you while driving the bus?

SL:  No, he did not hit me while driving the bus.

JR:  No, he stopped.

TJ:  What about the reports that you spit on him?

SL:  I never spit on that man.

SW:  So you never …

SL:  I never spit on that man.

SW:  You never, you didn’t kick …

SL:  Out of anything … out of anything I’ve been in a lot of situations that was, you know, not good, but I’ve never spit on anyone.  And I’ve never spit on that man.

SW:  Because the report …

JR:  Because you look at the video he gets up out of his seat and comes to you and then that’s when he just hits you.  And he says, if you want to act like a man he’s going to treat you like a man.

SL:  Yes, ma’am.

JR:  Why did he do that?  What provoked him to stop driving the bus and go from arguing with you to come over and hit you?

SL:  Honestly I felt like the conversation that we were having was really …

JAY:  It didn’t seem like a conversation.

SL:  He was really getting more upset—say that again?

JAY:  It didn’t seem like a conversation.  It seemed like you were, he was trying to drive the bus and you were just, why didn’t you stop, why weren’t you big enough to stop and go sit down?  And report him later?

SL:  Because …

JR:  Well, Jay, you know what though, we’ve all been in situations where we should’ve been a bigger person.

JAY:  I’m, but I’m asking her.  I’m asking her.  I was just asking her.  

SL:  Because, because as a woman, and a mother, and being, uh … a victim of domestic violence.  And for this man to have no clue of who I am and justify my character before he even knew I had any money.

JAY:  Did you ever find your money?  

TJ: You found the money.

SL:  I paid him.  

JR:  Yeah, she did.  And she paid her way.

SW:  But it still went on.

JAY:  Okay, back to the question of what did you say to him that made him stop the bus and hit you?

SL:  Well, actually, the man …

JAY:  What did you say or do to him that made him stop the bus and …

SW:  And say if you’re going to act like a man …

JAY:  …like a man, I’m going to treat you like a man, and hit you.  What happened?

SL:  Okay, well actually … he pushed me first, with his …

JAY:  He pushed you or he hit you?

SL:  He, he pushed me …

JR:  While he was still driving?

SL:  No.  The bus was clearly stopped when all this took place.  

JR:  Okay.

SL:  He pushed me with his elbow.  And then …

JAY:  But, what …

SW:  Wait, wait, wait, let her finish.

SL:  Then I … he pushed me with his elbow, like a get out of my face push.  And I pushed him back and I stood back.  I never spit on that man, and I will honestly say I never spit on him, ever.  

JAY:  Can we get the bus driver …

SL:  And he just …

TJ:  Well, what did you do?

SL:  I don’t know what made him, I don’t know what made him …

SW:  He just snapped.

SL:  … get up and attack me.  But, yeah, he just like he just snapped.  Or I don’t know what was the problem, but he just snapped, and clearly I was standing still not putting my hands on him at all when he stood up.  And he physically attacked me.  And I had, I felt …

JAY:  Well, my question to you, he was sitting, you was standing, why at that one point didn’t you just say I’m going to report him and go sit down?  Why, why didn’t you choose to do that?

SL:  Uh, because, like I said, before, as a mother, and a woman, I was, he misjudged me and the conversation had already had escalated out of proportion.

SW:  Did anyone come to your defense?

JR:  Other people on the bus from what, from watching this video, Shi’dea, when he hit you, there were people who started screaming say, no, no!  Who seemed from what I heard upset that he was hitting you in the way that he was.  Because he hit you and then he threw you down.  What, did people come to your aid?  What happened after that?  After he hit you?

SL:  Yes.  People did come to me and, you know, tried to calm me down and tried to get me to relax.  You know, just trying to keep me calm.  And people did come to my attention and authorities ended up coming, but that’s what happened.

JAY:  Do you still ride the bus?

SW:  Where is the case now?

TJ:  Yeah, are you suing?

JR:  Shi’dea has hired an attorney.  And where are we with things?  Have you sued?  Are you suing the bus company?  Are you suing the city?  Have you heard from them?  Have they issued any kind of an apology?

SL:  Well, actually I saw on the news that RCA was apologizing to me.  So that kind of gives me a little bit, yes, so that gives me a little bit of remorse and it makes me feel a little better as far as they even taking the time out to apologize.  And as me suing anybody I’m trying to take care of the criminal case before I even go any farther.  I haven’t even talked to anybody about suing, or trying to …

JAY:  Do you still ride the bus?

SW:  Yeah, how are you getting back and forth to work?

JAY:  Yeah, do you still ride the bus?  How you getting back and forth?

SL:  I do not ride the bus, and I no longer live in Cleveland, and my aunt gives me a ride to work every day.

JAY:  Alright.

JR:  Yeah, the bus driver has been suspended.  I don’t know if he’s been fired.

SW:  Is that indefinite?

JR:  The last I heard is he’s been suspended.  Don’t know.  Pending an investigation.

SW:  Okay.

JAY:  Whatever you do, don’t make your aunt mad.

JR:  Shi’dea, thank you for being brave enough to share your story.

SL:  Thank you.

JR:  I know it’s difficult.

SW:  Good luck to you and thanks for putting up with that.

TJ: God bless her.

SW:  Really.

TJ:  God bless her.  Man, she can take a punch though.

JAY:  Yes, she can.

JAY:  You got to get the bus driver on, there’s more to this story, Jackie.

TJ:  I’ve never seen anybody take a punch like that.

JR:  No man should hit a woman like that.

 

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14 thoughts on “Woman Hit By Cleveland Bus Driver Talks to TJMS

  1. The point is simple. He is the employee. He CANNOT lose his cool. PERIOD. I’ve worked for the same school district for 15 years. If I were to say to some of these parents what I REALLY felt, I would NOT have a job–even if what I had to say were true. If you cannot deal with the public, then you need to go into another line of employment. I chose my particular profession. When I get to the breaking point, I take a few vacation days. I can’t go off and cuss out a parent, and hit one with an uppercut–even if they deserve it.

  2. Has anyone ever seen bad karma obummer go into the hood and alot funds to clean it up and provide jobs for the 35% black youth unemployment? I don’ think so because he’s been too busy playing golf with rich Wallstreet white guys whom he’s given billions to. Now, still going to vote for him because he’s half black?

  3. Tom Don’t Hide Behind Your Mike.
    I don’t Care Who Started All This !
    It’s never Ok to beat up a woman-Especially A Black Woman- , and it’s even worse to make a joke of all this!!
    Who raised all these buffoons who support Violence Against Black Women in our Black Community?
    What Is wrong with the female reporter who never condemned this despicable act by a Big Bully ?
    And You Tom Call Yourself Black And Proud , and Make Fun Of This Self Described “Famous Uppercut?” Shame on TJMS, Shame On The Bully, The Black Bystanders In The Bus.
    Tom Try To Make Fun About A White Jewish Woman Getting Punched Out, And Thrown Off A Bus By A BLack Man, I Dare You Tom!!! You Would Loose Your Show in a second.

  4. Remember Guys The Whole World Reads Comments From The African American Community , and I can Tell You We are Looked Up On as Cowards With No Backbone. People Around The World View Us a A Bunch Of Crude Vulgar . I as a Black Man Am Ashamed By The Bad Behavior , and The Poor Choice Of Words In The TJMS Interview. The African American Community is clearly approving the Beating Of Black Women By Weak Coward African American Men. There is No Tolerance Now Or Ever For Beating Black Women.
    Is This The Obama Election Platform Tom Joyner Want’s To Show To The World??? Shame Shame On All The Folks That Were On That Bus And Did Nothing To Protect This Woman. It’s About Protecting Our Women, That’s What Real Men Doi

  5. Shame on Us Black America For Supporting Violence Against Women.
    No Man. No Where Who Is A Real Man Beats UP A Woman.
    Several Passengers Stood By Like A Bunch Of Cowards We Have Become. No Wonder We are Disrespected . Without A Woman There Would Be No Man.
    Tom Shame On You Why Did You Crack A Joke To That Lady Regarding Not Upsetting Her Aunt?
    You are not Funny , This was a despicable Act By You Tom, Are You Supporting Violence Against Women?????
    What Would You Do If Someone Beat Up And Threw Your Mom Down The Bus???
    I Know What I Would Do, I would Make sure The Sonna Of A B meets Satan prematurely

  6. The only cowards I see are The members of the TJMS. With the exception of Jay Anthony, you all let her get on your show andLIE. The video clearly shows what really happened. TJ and the interviewer answered the questions for her and defended a woman who spit on the man, punched the man, and expects not to get hit???? You should be ashamed to even allow someone, anyone come on your show and lie without checking them.

  7. I see by the feedback comments how cowardly many of Us So Called Black Men Are.
    70% of Black Households are headed by Black Women, Changing Your Diapers, Taking Care Of Us When We are Sick , Working For Minimum Wages to feed us Black Men So That One Day WE Can Beat Them , Chase White Women, and quit School. We are Cowards who allow The White Man To Abuse Us, Who Allow Thugs Like This Bus Driver Beat Up A Sister.
    I For One Do Not Believe This Sister Walked On The Bus Ans Started Cussing Or Spitting At This This Old “UnCle Tom Thug” . I believe Her That The Bus Driver Called her a ‘HO” when she took time to produce the Buss Fees.
    She Stood Up For Herself , She Refused To Be called A “Ho” , Good For Her and Shame On All Black Men In America For Beating Our Women. and Abusing Them. They Take Care Of Us.

  8. She should have gotten off the bus, and/or as someone else said, he should have FIRST called the police and then dispatch.
    As a female, there’s no way in the world I would have an argument with anyone in public.
    BOTH THE DRIVER AND THE PASSENGER WHERE WRONG!!!
    Both are idiots

  9. Even though he could’ve handled the situation better,whether the fact he hit her or not,she had it coming by her mouth alone.She did pass the first lick.Being a public servant is no picnic.Everyday bus drivers deal with inorant folks who rides public transportation daily and I have seen first hand how they are treated sometimes,even though there are some busdrivers who are mean,rude,and just downright nasty towards passengers,but I myself would not want that job no matter what it pays.Everyone has a breaking point,regardless of how a public servant is suppose to keep cool and be polite,but we need to put oursevles in their shoes and think about how would we react in that situation.I hope he does not lose his job,but she should have been arrested for assault regardless of how the busdriver hit her,she should have never put her hands on him.

  10. Since I live in the state of Ohio, (not Cleveland), I’m going to weigh in. The bus driver was DEAD WRONG. Not only for the uppercut, but for the fact that he actively engaged in the exchanged when he, as an employed public servant, should have pulled the bus over, called dispatch to let them know what was going on and that he was no longer on his route, then called the police to have her removed and that would have been the end of the story. He should not have sat there and gone back-and-forth with her. As a bus driver in a large, urban city I know that he encounters crazies on “the regular,” and I’m sure it was not the first time that he had a person who didn’t pay the “fare.” I work for a school district, and I have been cussed out to within an inch of my life, in person and on the phone. It is my responsibility as the employee to not let the situation get out of control. He could have simply ignored her. One link can’t rattle a chain.

  11. I didn’t believe anything she said about not being aggressive. Since the incident, she comes across as such a “sweet, law-abiding citizen”. But the video showed the true girl she really is. No woman that has been a victim of domestic violence will put herself in position to be physically abused, regardless if she knew it (the punch) was coming or not. I don’t condone physical violence at all but that doesn’t give her the right to abuse him (verbally or physically) and not expect to get something back. That doesn’t exclude the driver from his wrong doing. The way to end it with without confrontation wasn’t taken even though they both had the opportunities to do so. She is not an innocent victim and she should have some form of punishment as well.

  12. Too often chicks in this world wanna play tough like they can beat a man, stop you can’t! It ironic that now this chick wants to play the victim when we all saw the video, you were clearly the instigator, your lawyer must be advising you to play the victim now. It sad that that driver was trying to feed his family and had to encounter a monster like you, at least that uppercut gave you some new found common sense!!!!

  13. WOW! That’s not what the video showed. I pray they both get it together, both sides were so wrong. Like Jay said, she could’ve been the bigger person and sat down….

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